[clamav-users] Clamd and Systemd

[Simon Hobson]

G.W. Haywood <clamav at jubileegroup.co.uk> wrote:

> I would
> 
> http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_remove_systemd_from_a_Debian_jessie/sid_installation

Been there, done that, but what a right PITA it creates - specifically trying to figure what package is triggering a chain of dependencies that's trying to pull in part of SystemD

> and then install ClamAV from source.  I wouldn't use packages for
> things like ClamAV anyway.

I have to consider maintainability - and given the skills (or lack of) left in the business when I find a better job or get hit by the proverbial bus, I've been making a point of sticking to packages.

> Not at all, it's just Debian doing what Debian does (i.e. drive me nuts).

It's been driving me nuts today. Perhaps it's just "what I'm used to" but I prefer Debian to most other distros - I learned my first Unix with SCO Xenix and then Openserver5.


Scott Kitterman <debian at kitterman.com> wrote:

>> Also, does anyone know how "important" this dependency is ? Is it just
>> some small optional features, or something fundamental that can't be
>> removed ? My gut feeling is that given the range or platforms ClamAV
>> runs on (inc many without SystemD), it can't be that important.
> 
> It's there because of the way we build the package to support the default init system.  I don't recall exactly why. It doesn't, however, do anything if systemd isn't the active init system. Other than taking a small amount of disk space it's harmless. 

Is "harmless" supposed to include "not installable" ?