[clamav-users] Clamd and Systemd

[Scott Kitterman]

On June 18, 2015 3:53:00 PM EDT, Simon Hobson <linux at thehobsons.co.uk> wrote:
>G.W. Haywood <clamav at jubileegroup.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I would
>> 
>>
>http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_remove_systemd_from_a_Debian_jessie/sid_installation
>
>Been there, done that, but what a right PITA it creates - specifically
>trying to figure what package is triggering a chain of dependencies
>that's trying to pull in part of SystemD
>
>> and then install ClamAV from source.  I wouldn't use packages for
>> things like ClamAV anyway.
>
>I have to consider maintainability - and given the skills (or lack of)
>left in the business when I find a better job or get hit by the
>proverbial bus, I've been making a point of sticking to packages.
>
>> Not at all, it's just Debian doing what Debian does (i.e. drive me
>nuts).
>
>It's been driving me nuts today. Perhaps it's just "what I'm used to"
>but I prefer Debian to most other distros - I learned my first Unix
>with SCO Xenix and then Openserver5.
>
>
>Scott Kitterman <debian at kitterman.com> wrote:
>
>>> Also, does anyone know how "important" this dependency is ? Is it
>just
>>> some small optional features, or something fundamental that can't be
>>> removed ? My gut feeling is that given the range or platforms ClamAV
>>> runs on (inc many without SystemD), it can't be that important.
>> 
>> It's there because of the way we build the package to support the
>>default init system.  I don't recall exactly why. It doesn't, however,
>>do anything if systemd isn't the active init system. Other than taking
>>a small amount of disk space it's harmless. 
>
>Is "harmless" supposed to include "not installable" ?

No.  What's not installable? 

Install clamav-daemon (with the lib) and don't worry about it. 

Scott K