[clamav-users] ClamAV for EnterPrise

Al Varnell alvarnell at mac.com
Wed Apr 19 01:37:17 EDT 2017

Honestly, I don't see anything impolite about what Mr. Haywood had to say. Certainly seems to be great guidance from somebody that's been in the industry for over four decades. I believe you would be well served to take his advice seriously.


On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 10:16 PM, crazy thinker wrote:
> @G.W Haywood..
> it would be sounds good if you speak  in polite way.. evey one can bark on
> others.. but that is not solution here. i hope you understand well
> On 19 April 2017 at 02:00, G.W. Haywood <clamav at jubileegroup.co.uk> wrote:
>> Hi there,
>> On Tue, 18 Apr 2017, crazy thinker wrote:
>> - I am looking for  below features in Enterprise Environment
>>> -
>>> - *Antivirus/Antispyware*
>>> - *Desktop Firewall*
>>> - *Intrusion Prevention*
>>> - *Browser Protection*
>>> - *Antivirus for Mac & Linux*
>>> - *Device & Application Control*
>>> - *Virtualization Features*
>>> - *Centralized and Granular Policy Management*
>> The more questions you ask on this and the development list, the more
>> painfully obvious it becomes to me that you have no idea what you are
>> talking about.  The list which you have provided above is garbage; if
>> you took that to a commercial supplier they would probably fall about
>> laughing after they have sold you a lot of useless junk and shown you
>> out of the door.
>> The best thing you can do is get yourself some good training, so that
>> you will become capable of making rational decisions based on sound
>> (and not crazy) thinking.  You should expect the training, if pursued
>> full-time, to take at least a couple of years to get you to the point
>> where you at least know what a firewall does.  To know how properly to
>> configure one would, if you were no more than an average pupil in the
>> first course, probably take a couple more years.  If this sounds a bit
>> like a batchelor's degree in computer science, that's not far wrong.
>> The next best thing would be to employ someone competent, but with
>> your current level of understanding I have no idea how you are going
>> to be able to judge the competence of a prospective employee.
>> To give you a rough idea of what level of skill you should be looking
>> for, I would not allow someone with a new computer science degree to
>> make unsupervised configuration changes to computer defences until he
>> or she had worked for me for at least a few months - probably more
>> like a couple of years - so that I could assess his/her capabilities.
>> I managed to get a first class honours degree in engineering in 1976,
>> I've been working with computers for over forty years, and I'm STILL
>> learning new, interesting and sneaky tricks which could easily eat my
>> lunch if I weren't careful.  It's a jungle out there, it really is.
>> If you plan to risk the livelihoods of employees on your own present
>> computer skills, then I'd have to say I think that is irresponsible,
>> and with the present threat levels simply begging for trouble.
>> --
>> 73,
>> Ged.
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