On Oct 17, 2018, at 12:20 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@thelounge.net> wrote:

Am 17.10.18 um 18:11 schrieb Dino Edwards:

Get real. When I and others called you out, you decided to put a little more detail to cover the obvious fact that you were just trying to be a dick.

The important thing you fail to understand that I did NOT write the script to start the service. So any "mkdir/chown dance" as you put it, was NOT done by me, but rather the package maintainer. This USED to work in previous Ubuntu/clamd version, now it no longer works. So, I'm trying to figure out why it's not working and if I should bring this up in the appropriate Ubuntu forum.

if the unit is not written by you, comes from Ubuntu and now stopped
working guess what: you should have contacted the appropriate Ubuntu
forum to start with

i just pointed out that i am suprised after that many years that one
still don't know about /run and how to handle it properly and frankly:
when you don#t undertsan dthe "directory already exists" message and ask
here insetad jump on the packager with did this bullshit and *pretty
clear* did even not try to restart his damned unit a single time how
should one help you?

-----Original Message-----
From: Reindl Harald [mailto:h.reindl@thelounge.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 11:39 AM
To: ClamAV users ML <clamav-users@lists.clamav.net>; Dino Edwards <dino.edwards@mydirectmail.net>; gblorst@eclipso.eu
Subject: Re: [clamav-users] /bin/mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/run/clamav’: File exists

Am 17.10.18 um 14:33 schrieb Dino Edwards:

How about you contribute something of value to this discussion instead of a link about how this was added in Linux 7 years ago so you can show everyone how clever you are. 

i contributed the link which explains how these folders are supposed to get created at boot and any mkdir/chown dance is plain wrong - it's not my fault that you don't recognize input when you get it https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/tmpfiles.d.html

and if one insists in "ExecStartPre=/bin/mkdir /run/clamav" he should make it proper as "ExecStartPre=-/bin/mkdir /run/clamav" which don't fail the whole service in case the directory already exists

-----Original Message-----
From: Reindl Harald [mailto:h.reindl@thelounge.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 8:29 AM
To: ClamAV users ML <clamav-users@lists.clamav.net>; Dino Edwards 
<dino.edwards@mydirectmail.net>
Subject: Re: [clamav-users] /bin/mkdir: cannot create directory 
‘/run/clamav’: File exists


Am 17.10.18 um 13:12 schrieb Dino Edwards:

Good morning? 

what about read posted links and don't strip context?

/run was introduced 7 years ago and the discussion about it made it to 
every it news portal and that's what i mean when somebody is surprised 
that /run is a tmpfs available at early boot which also means you need 
to make sure folders there are created at boot

https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/tmpfiles.d.html

Am 16.10.18 um 19:12 schrieb Dino Edwards:

good morning in 2018

-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------

Am 16.10.18 um 19:12 schrieb Dino Edwards:

Answering my own question on the /var/run and the /run directories.
There is a link between the two

good morning in 2018

http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Linux-distributions-to-include-
run-directory-1219006.html

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