total disregard for the user base, not so much as a poll or query
on the lists, enjoy your new cutting edge toys
Corporate BS rears it's ugly head again, First snort, then centos
and now clamav.
I think this is unfair. This is the feedback we’re
getting. Sounds like we don’t need a poll or a query. We’re hearing
it now.
Actually the way it was presented was here is what's
going to happen and not what would the community think about going to cmake,
here are the advantages to the community if we go this way. It wasn't presented
as an option and it took a lot of people off guard. It's like someone on the
list said if you are using an old stable enterprise version maybe you just need
to switch to something more cutting edge like Fedora, which is not stable and
shouldn't be used in an enterprise situation. When I upgrade an OS it's a very
big deal because I have to template it, use it in production at one of the sites
to make sure everything is stable, keep it out of the other upgrade paths (the
older OS's) and image it, go to several (100+es each) cities on a Sunday
(to be at console and cannot take it down any other day) and then update the
site specific pieces, test everything and drive 100+ back. What might be a
small thing for some is a real life's mess for many others.
I
didn't mean to be as offensive as it came out but I was pissed because for my
mail servers it's going to be a problem, I've built it on a file server (Centos
7) alright but just to get to correct version of cmake built and all
the required dependencies was cumbersome at best.
I also think it’s unfair to think “big bad Cisco” had anything to do with this at all. ClamAV is
beholden to Cisco in very few ways. In that it’s integrated
i
nto a few products, other than
that, the ClamAV development team has pretty full autonomy. No one is
coming down to Micah and saying "YOU MUST YOU CMAKE YOU PEON DEVELOPER
MUHAHAHAHAHA”.
That
was , in fact, unfair of me. Perhaps the team isn't part of the
culture. I have had issue with Cisco for quite some time, really going back to
when they bought Linksys because their hardware was over priced and more and more enterprises
was realizing the didn't to pay Cisco for a name... rather than simply build a
reasonable priced series of equipment (as they do today) they bought a
reasonably prices equipment vendor.
If you have feedback, this is the perfect use of this list to do so, but
we’re also all adults, with jobs, with passions, and we can be
professional.
As far as Snort, I think the same logic applies. The rewrite of Snort
started long before Cisco even entered the picture, it started when we were
still Sourcefire back in 2011-2012. I have the engineering slides!
I'd
have to think about it, I thought the paid sigs over community sigs began with
Cisco but maybe it was Sourcefire. I am sure you are right it's my bad attitude
about Cisco, I am waiting for them to purchase ubiquiti next. and the entire IBM
Centos mess just turns up my "big company" hackles.